Anthony Principi Holds a Hearing On Final Deliberations, Part 2

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Anthony Principi Holds a Hearing On Final Deliberations, Part 2

DEFENSE BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE COMMISSION HOLDS HEARING ON FINAL DELIBERATIONS, PART II

AUGUST 26, 2005

COMMISSIONERS: ANTHONY PRINCIPI, CHAIRMAN GENERAL LLOYD W. NEWTON (USAF, RET.) GENERAL JAMES T. HILL (USA, RET.) SAMUEL SKINNER PHILIP COYLE ADMIRAL HAROLD W. GEHMAN JR. (USN, RET.) JAMES V. HANSEN JAMES H. BILBRAY GENERAL SUE ELLEN TURNER (USAF, RET.)

RUMU SARKAR, ASSOCIATE LEGAL COUNSEL

FRANK CIRILLO, BRAC DIRECTOR OF REVIEW AND ANALYSIS

WITNESSES:

KENNETH SMALL, AIR FORCE TEAM LEADER

DAVE VAN SAUN, JOINT CROSS-SERVICE TEAM LEADER

SYD CARROLL, ANALYST

TIM MACGREGOR, AIR FORCE ANALYST

MIKE FLINN, SENIOR ANALYST

MICHAEL DELANEY, SENIOR ANALYST

CRAIG HALL, ANALYST

[*] PRINCIPI: The commission hearing will come to order.

Mr. Cirillo?

CIRILLO: Yes. We have -- before we start this afternoon's proceedings, I recommend we all get sworn in again since we have a lot of new witnesses.

SARKAR: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All members of the BRAC staff who are presenting evidence before the commission today please raise your right hand for me. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give and any evidence you may provide are complete and accurate to the best of your knowledge and beliefs, so help you, God? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

CIRILLO: Mr. Chairman, if I could give you a brief rundown of where I believe we're going this afternoon. We'll first start off completing section 100, which is Cannon Air Force Base. From that, we will complete section 128, the undergraduate pilot training, Moody Air Force Base, which was tabled from yesterday. At that point in time, we will go in to the Air National Guard related activities that we'll be discussing and Reserve activities that we're discussing this afternoon. There'll be an introduction to that.

Within that Air National Guard discussion, we will also address three other actions that were held back from this afternoon. And that would be the Kulis, Elmendorf, section 180. I'm sorry. I repeat, section 80 from this morning, Kulis, Alaska and Elmendorf, Alaska. We'll also do the section 103, Pope Air Force Base, North Carolina. It also includes Pittsburgh and Yeager and will also include section 104, which is Grand Forks Air Force Base. And then the many recommendations that are Guard and Reserve-related will be discussed all in this one dialogue. At this point in time, Mr. Chairman, I'm going to turn it back over to Mr. Small. And Mr. Small will be available for further discussion regarding Cannon Air Force Base.

SMALL: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and commissioners.

OK, I guess we're back to Cannon Air Force Base and the discussions there any questions of the staff that have arisen, sir?

SKINNER: No, I have a motion. And...

PRINCIPI: Yes?

SKINNER: I have a motion, Mr. Chairman, and I just sent it out for a quick typo change.

PRINCIPI: OK.

SKINNER: So maybe...

PRINCIPI: Well, why don't we just table that, and we'll go to the next item, and we'll and come right back to Cannon so we don't lose any time. We have a lot of work to cover, and time is running short.

SKINNER: That'd be perfect. Thank you.

CIRILLO (?): We could go to section 128, which is the undergraduate pilot training. At this point in time, then, I'm sure you saw plenty of Dave Van Saun yesterday, but you'll get another opportunity, Mr. Chairman. And also Mr. Syd Carroll will address section 128, the Moody Air Force base realignment.

VAN SAUN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Just one slide shows the rest of the education training items. We are going to be addressing section 128. It is joint cross-service education and training number 14, section 128 of the bill, relocates primary phase of fixed wing pilot training, introduction to fighter fundamentals training and undergraduate navigator training within the Air Force. Specifically, this recommendation provides for the realignment of Moo...

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